Tuesday, August 08, 2006

Shebaa Farms Bullshittery From Bolton

Sounds like someone is bullshitting us here:

But the United States ruled out putting Shebaa Farms under U.N. custody since the Security Council concluded that Israel had fully withdrawn from Lebanon years ago. "If there's going to be a change in the condition of Shebaa Farms, that's for Syria and Lebanon to decide," U.S. Ambassador John R. Bolton said.


Bolton neglects to mention that Israel occupies Shebaa Farms and that Lebanon and Syria can decide to "change the condition of Shebaa Farms" until the cows come home, and that won't make any difference as to who controls that particular piece of real estate.

It is Hezbollah's demand that Israel give up Shebaa Farms that is one of the intractable issues that will need to be addressed, one way or another, in order to get to the "sustainable cease-fire" that President Bush claims to desire.

Bolton knows this, and knows that Israel occupies Shebaa Farms, yet still makes a statement that everyone in the world (except the Americans) will view as evidence that the U.S. is not ready to be a partner in seeking a negotiated solution to the crisis.

Israel is increasingly interested in getting help from the international community in extricating itself from the mess they have created by their escalation of a minor border skirmish with Hezbollah. And their enabler, the U.S. -- by going with risibly amateurish gambits -- is continuing to let down the team diplomatically.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it possible that in your effort to be fair, you are actually being too hard on the United States of America and Israel?

The United States of America does not and never would send suicide bombers to blow up innocent men, women and children eating at restaurants or riding buses. Nor does Israel. Yet Hezbollah and Hamas would, and have.

As someone who values peace and decency, that distinction has to be important to you. It isn't a fact that you just dismiss or ignore. And you wouldn't rationalize that if Israel accidentally kills civilians while trying to prevent further such attacks, somehow this makes Israel the same as the terrorists. You know the difference between premeditated murder and an attempt to stop further premeditated murders.

I know that you are not the kind of person who would just side with Arabs or Muslims even when they are doing wrong, or attack the U.S. and Israel, or George Bush, even when they are doing right.

I know that you would not support a ceasefire in Lebanon if the only real effect would be to allow Hezbollah, Iran and Syria time to rearm for even more deadly attacks against Israel. That wouldn't be in the interests of peace, would it?

When we spend a lot of time in an insular community (colleges or universities are a good example, or deep involvement in one ethnic group or one political party), we sometimes to get so swept up in things that we don't even realize that not everything we believe so fervently is even necessarily true.

Nothing wrong with that, as long as you're not going out of your way to undermine the good guys on this earth.

There are evil men in this world who would -- God forbid -- kidnap you randomly, saw your head off, videotape the beheading, and post it on the internet, if they could just get their hands on you. Now who am I referring to?

Has Israel ever done that? No. It is unthinkable, as applied to Israel.

Has George Bush ever done that? No. It is as far removed from him as anything you can imagine. He doesn't even like to see human fetuses or embryos killed, or old disabled people.

And yet Islamic terrorists have done just that, many times. They scattered fruit boxes full of severed heads around Iraq recently. They beheaded several men and posted their "snuff" videos on the internet.

And if they did the same to you, God forbid, I'd condemn them, just as I do now, and I'd do everything in my power to help any nation on earth that had the courage to hunt them down.

8/08/2006 11:29 AM  
Blogger Effwit said...


By contrasting what is acceptable for the U.S. to what is acceptable for Muslim terrorists, you have already lost the argument.

8/08/2006 11:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmm I dunno...

Would I rather be beheaded with a rusty bread knife (after eating breakfast at a restaurant)... or burned to death in a sea of phospherous (while walking to school) ... choices are so difficult to make sometimes...


8/08/2006 4:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aggression + poverty = terrorism (bad)
Aggression + $$$$$$$ = war (good)


rich states are careful not to engage other rich states directly in aggression
(because then the game might come to a sudden end)

8/08/2006 4:57 PM  
Blogger Meatball One said...

anon smells purple JC Penney shirt. Burkoid? Hmm

Shebaa world...one of those myths/narratives that grinds on unchallenged.

nice post, Effy

anon...chics can dig white JC Penney cotton on black hearts too

8/08/2006 7:43 PM  
Blogger Effwit said...


Good points about the moral relativism of some of the war supporters.

Also, the U.S. hates to fight rich countries because we hate to face our own weapons that we have sold to them.

8/08/2006 7:47 PM  
Blogger Effwit said...


It does sound familiar, doesn't it?

I was wondering why he didn't want to use his name.

Maybe he has gotten second thoughts about how the tenure committee will view his prolific online absurdities.

8/08/2006 7:49 PM  
Blogger Meatball One said...

btw anon

Has Israel ever done that? No. It is unthinkable, as applied to Israel.
Yes, and worse so

Has George Bush ever done that? No. It is as far removed from him as anything you can imagine. He doesn't even like to see human fetuses or embryos killed, or old disabled people.
Yes, and worse so

Learn to differentiate between the spoken and the done.

My hockey coach told me when I was 5, " Forget the puck, concentrate on the body"

Actually he said, "Fuck him up and forget the rubber."

BTW, are you illiterate and deaf or just not curious enough to search out the answers for your own questions before you demand the time of others to answer them for you?

Finish high school and go on to university, fella. Any true curiousity you might harbor will more than suffice to compensate for any intellectual challenges your individual biological expression has lashed upon your neck atrophic.

Am I being too harsh for your wife's sensitivities?

8/08/2006 8:15 PM  
Blogger Meatball One said...

Maybe I spend too much time in Euroskankland to keep up with the vocabulary deployed in People Mag - but I learn new words here faster than I will ever manage to learn my 3 cell phone numbers.

Your prose rocks. it's clean as a whistle. You're a pro of some sort.

8/08/2006 9:27 PM  
Blogger Effwit said...


Aw, shucks.

Beckett taught me that--as opposed to Joyce who liked to throw in everything he could find--it is preferable instead to take out everything possible.

8/08/2006 9:40 PM  
Blogger Meatball One said...

Spend a lot of time in Key West drinking daiquiris, do'ya? ;)

8/08/2006 9:47 PM  
Blogger Effwit said...


I may be a Commie pinko, but I am not that kind of pinko.

8/08/2006 9:50 PM  
Blogger Meatball One said...

Oh, you be da hardcore type O fella. Flights to Cuba via Belize to drink da Mojito and write clean and true.
Tho thorry.

8/08/2006 9:59 PM  
Blogger Effwit said...


No pwablem.

I actually prefer taking the Aeromexico hop from Cancun.

8/08/2006 10:03 PM  
Blogger Meatball One said...

friends say one should visit Cuba if one hasn't done so already - before everything perhaps changes. I haven't made it there yet.

but Grenada..of Grenada and an Abott and Costello invasion I can tell many stories. Go see Clint Eastwood's Heartbreak Ridge. It tells you exctly how it never happened.

8/09/2006 11:53 AM  

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